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It has to be said - women in the military

So today - whilst reading the news - I came across an article where the military is about to court martial a soldier who refused to be deployed, due to the fact that she is a single mother with no support system. THANKS, BEOTCH. You've managed to UNDO what women have been striving to prove since we were first allowed to serve our country. Do you honestly think that first, getting pregnant out of wedlock, was a smart move as a soldier??? There are actually rules about all that. And secondly, NOTHING makes you any more special than any other parent. Maybe you should've thought about that while hoing around the base. Or maybe it should've occurred to you before you flat out refused a military order. There are plenty of rules on THAT, also.

I say throw the book slap at her forehead.

And some argue that the military is being too harsh on her. Whatever. She'd be hanging from the courthouse lawn if I had a say in it. Unbelievable. One step forward; 20 back. Sorry, mah sistah, but this ain't civil service nor is it some government "job" where you can just decide you don't want to show up, due to your poor ass judgment, fear, or general laziness (which is what I'm voting on). The military isn't easy, but it's for a good reason. You made the choice to join and committed yourself to it. To disobey a deployment order should warrant you some serious jail time. NOW how's your kid going to grow up??

And no, I don't care who this offends. I spent my time in the military, and have seen this type of "play" made by women with children. It /never/ worked, I might add. They had to go TDY and be on alert just like the rest of us in the end, or get what this chick is getting - an Article 15.

That makes me sick.



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Jan. 14th, 2010 07:34 pm (UTC)
So, if she ships out, what happens to the baby? Will the military place it in a foster home?
Jan. 14th, 2010 10:38 pm (UTC)
She won't ship out; it's too late for that. Now she's up for an article 15 (which is our equivalent to court) for being AWOL, as well she should be. The penalty is really high for dodging duty, so I hope they throw the book at her. She has a mother and sister (I read in the article) so it's not like she doesn't have options. When you join the Army, you're MARRIED to it, at least for the years you sign up for. She knew better.
Jan. 14th, 2010 08:25 pm (UTC)
First, what you said.
Second, comedy icon.
Jan. 14th, 2010 10:38 pm (UTC)
It makes me sick to read stories like that. They had a picture of her face, looking all down-trodden, and I wanted to punch her ass out.
Jan. 14th, 2010 11:18 pm (UTC)
Swore the same oath we did. I don't seem to recall a clause that allowed exemptions for being a parent.
Jan. 14th, 2010 11:31 pm (UTC)
That's exactly right. Nor do I know of any parents who have thusfar been exempt from deployment. She's like a damn civil servant, feeling entitled to enjoy the benefits, but not wanting to work for it. Don't even get me started on all that...
Jan. 14th, 2010 09:31 pm (UTC)
...wow. Seriously? Just...wow.
Jan. 14th, 2010 10:40 pm (UTC)
The military is serious - as it should be - on their policies. Nobody's /special/ or /different/, and we're ALL subject to deployment while serving active duty. We know it, we're aware of it, and should be prepared to DO IT. War doesn't want for us, and her dumbass knew better. I could say more on the whole breeding subject, but I'm resisting.
Jan. 14th, 2010 10:42 pm (UTC)
Hey, if you've got something to say, I can hear it. *gets popcorn*

You don't want to keep that all bottled up.
Jan. 14th, 2010 11:30 pm (UTC)
What I say is fair, as is evidenced by the beliefs of other veterans. Of course, you would've had to have served to appreciate my sentiments.
Jan. 15th, 2010 02:34 am (UTC)
I'm rapidly approaching a point where "but I have kids!" means that the person is special in a negative way (Congrats for spawning! You don't get special privileges because you managed to find someone for five minutes of sweaty fun time and a 3/4 of a year incubation period. Pay your bill / ship out / whatever like everyone else.) instead of something where I'm sympathetic.

I've not served, so I probably can't fully appreciate your sentiments.

Do pregnant women not get to go to jail if they've been convicted of a crime? (and is that even an appropriate parallel?)
Jan. 15th, 2010 05:21 pm (UTC)
The military - at one point - had regulations that forbade women from pregnancy out of wedlock in the military (long time ago). We've fought so hard for equality that actions - such as hers - sets us back AGES. She has a job, and part of that job might require her to die. We all know this when we swear in to serve our country. It's not a matter of who served or didn't; it's a /woman/ thing. Just as the military starts to warm up on the idea of women doing non-traditional jobs, she goes and does /this/. Just a setback.
Jan. 15th, 2010 04:10 am (UTC)
Jeez that's horrible.
Jan. 15th, 2010 05:21 pm (UTC)
What I said or what she did?
Jan. 15th, 2010 07:49 pm (UTC)
I agree with you on this...
Jan. 15th, 2010 08:08 pm (UTC)
We women (or those of us who do untraditional things) have worked too hard to prove we can do the same job as a man. And that should be across the board.
Jan. 17th, 2010 11:15 pm (UTC)
1) I agree 100% with you, Terri, from the first news report I heard on this. She decided to have a kid (well, to get prego even) out of wedlock. So she needs to be responsible for setting up arrangements of who can take care of the kid if she gets deployed. I do remember something being mentioned about her mom....are relatives refusing to take care of the baby, or is she just refusing to let them help? No, wait, I got it -- she's using the kid to stay Stateside. ARGH! Yay for the military, doing what they're supposed to and not giving in to the snowflake-in-combat-boots. (And they're called COMBAT boots for a reason!!!)

2) We women (or those of us who do untraditional things) have worked too hard to prove we can do the same job as a man. And that should be across the board. -- And yet I see so many tales on customers_suck from females in which their customer insists on asking a guy for help...when the female herself usually knows just as much (or more!) than the male co-workers. When will people learn that knowledge is stored in the brain, not the lower anatomy? Probably never...because they teach their kids the same stupid judgments.
Jan. 17th, 2010 11:18 pm (UTC)
I'm glad that the military is unashamed at letting public affairs do their job, instead of covering it up. I still have her face memorized, and want to punch it.
Jan. 18th, 2010 03:46 am (UTC)
I never saw pics or video of her, but personally if you ever got that chance I'd nominate you for a medal. =)
Jan. 18th, 2010 04:28 am (UTC)
What a nice thing to say :) I have a few medals I received while active duty. I'm very proud of those, and the certificates of merit which accompany them.
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